Bubba, no need to do that. We can just go back into the 1960s archives to see that they used the symbol from our current flag to champion their cause of white supremacy and violence.
[Or, hell, just Google.][1]
And, no, I'm no Klan "expert": in fact, I know more about the upstanding (cough) Citizens Council, which was headquartered here in Jackson and also considered this flag a symbol of white supremacy. And the Americans for the Preservation of the White Race (often paid the legal bills for Klan killers).
And I'm not not enough white Mississippian in ignorant denial of what this flag stood/stands for.
*Ms. Ladd, Please You are better than that. You know without me or anyone else pointing it out that ALL of your links are to well known anti-gun organizations*
That isn't true, BigAl. And I knew that would be your first response.
Here's what exceptionally illogical about this response: Gun nuts will label *any* research, hospital, public-health expert, anybody, who actually (a) does deep research and/or (b) uses their common sense to come to conclusions that guns increase incidents and severity of violence" -- when the less-NRA-conditioned folks among us get the point that actual evidence can actually make smart people and organizations question the gun culture y'all are trying to push on us all. Here's a little news flash for you: We get to do our own homework, make our own decisions and then discuss if out loud, even if it offends gun wingers.
Have an awesome day.
js, he will face a grand jury -- and she is still dead.
I heard a smart young man say today that we also need to drug-test every CEO and investor and shareholder who benefits from corporate welfare. While we're at it, let's drug-test all the politicians who get campaign contributions from corporate welfare kings.
[White people who kill black people in 'Stand Your Ground' states are 354% more likely to be cleared of murder][1]
It seems rather obvious that that's the point, no? It reminds me of my research on the Americans for the Preservation of the White Race in Mississippi--one of their main purposes was to raise money to pay for the defense of the Klansmen who did the dirty work for them and their fellow upstanding citizens of the Citizens Council. Now, we pass laws to make it easier for whites to kill blacks, even if they're just walking up on their porch because their car broke down. We're moving backward fast with this crap.
P.S. This piece was reposted proudly on the forums of a white-supremacist website. Great company to keep.
I'm disappointed in Stamps on this one. He seems smart enough to do his homework instead of passing along false NRA memes. It's easy enough to debunk the myth and anyone who knows anything about where gun crimes actually tend to happen know that they are very likely to happen in places with the loosest gun laws: in general, the more guns, the more likely it is that people use them. That's rather common sense. Of course, some people only believe stuff they want to believe, but Stamps strikes me as smarter than those folks.
Here are several pieces about this myth that link out to other interesting stuff:
[NRA's gun-free zone myth][1]
[No Relationship between gun-free zones and mass shootings][2]
[List of related studies][3]
[National Criminal Justice Reference Service][4]
[Journal of American Medicine - Study: Firearm Legislation and Firearm-Related Fatalities in the United States ][5]
[Does strengthening self-defense law deter crime or escalate violence? Evidence from castle doctrine - See more at: http://journalistsresource.org/studies/…] (Findings: Homicide increased in places with Castle Doctrine)
[Stand Your Ground Laws, Homicides, and Injuries][7] (Stand Your Ground laws increase homicides among whites, but not blacks; they also increase emergency room visits for serious injuries)
[National Bureau of Economic Research][8] (Making it easier to use guns for "self-defense" actually increased homicides 8 percent in those places, most classifieds as murders)
[Study: Guns contribute to escalation and lethality of violence][9]
That's just a start. I urge Councilman Stamps to get more educated about this issue.
I agree with you. I can't believe the buildings don't have windows and the like. That is unconscionable to allow to happen, regardless of whose fault it is. Stop the dang fingerpointing and get down there and secure those historic buildings. It's tragic to watch them rot.
Agreed that Reeves is wrong. But he does represent a certain way of thinking that also infects some of our leaders in downtown Jackson who keep wanting to turn downtown into a tourist trap to draw the "white" dollars from outside the city--the type who thinks that an arena or a big lake development or other huge things are what will "save" us; meantime, we waste time and buildings sit empty waiting for the next huge thing. That thinking is what has downtown stalled in many ways. It's even more obvious to us since we moved downtown. We desperately need an updated, locals-first, respect-and-market-the-real-history, respectful, can-take-criticism approach to downtown leadership. We seriously need to stop wasting time and trusting in ideas the taxpayers can't afford. It's up to the people to demand better and do more ourselves.
Two-waying Capitol Street is all well and good -- but what about the businesses that already exist (many of which are in trouble as it takes so damn long). What are we doing to help them? How are we getting artists downtown? Are we convincing building owners to stop warehousing space waiting for the big paycheck? Where are the damn leaders? Frankly, I'm not seeing too many of them downtown these days. If the ones who claim to be would stop trying to play politics and kingmaker and start thinking local and creatively, maybe downtown would start popping.
Put it another way: If we want downtown to happen, we're clearly going to have to do it our own damn selves.
Turtleread, I know you're salivating to fight with me, but it's not going to happen. The story above is about Christianity and, thus, your posts here going forward need to be on topic. Others will be deleted without comment.
You might also re-read No. 6 while you're in there. You're clearly excited to be here, but you might try to refrain from posting over and over and over again -- especially if your posts say the same thing. That is bad netiquette.
donnaladd says...
Bubba, no need to do that. We can just go back into the 1960s archives to see that they used the symbol from our current flag to champion their cause of white supremacy and violence.
[Or, hell, just Google.][1]
And, no, I'm no Klan "expert": in fact, I know more about the upstanding (cough) Citizens Council, which was headquartered here in Jackson and also considered this flag a symbol of white supremacy. And the Americans for the Preservation of the White Race (often paid the legal bills for Klan killers).
And I'm not not enough white Mississippian in ignorant denial of what this flag stood/stands for.
[1]: http://www.google.com/search?q=klan+con…
On Mississippi’s Flag: A Blow at Civilization
Posted 17 January 2014, 10:38 a.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
*Ms. Ladd, Please You are better than that. You know without me or anyone else pointing it out that ALL of your links are to well known anti-gun organizations*
That isn't true, BigAl. And I knew that would be your first response.
Here's what exceptionally illogical about this response: Gun nuts will label *any* research, hospital, public-health expert, anybody, who actually (a) does deep research and/or (b) uses their common sense to come to conclusions that guns increase incidents and severity of violence" -- when the less-NRA-conditioned folks among us get the point that actual evidence can actually make smart people and organizations question the gun culture y'all are trying to push on us all. Here's a little news flash for you: We get to do our own homework, make our own decisions and then discuss if out loud, even if it offends gun wingers.
Have an awesome day.
js, he will face a grand jury -- and she is still dead.
On Pulling the Trigger on a Gun Ordinance
Posted 17 January 2014, 10:28 a.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
Did the Klan use the Bonnie Blue or other flags as their battle flags? I'm not aware of it if so.
On Mississippi’s Flag: A Blow at Civilization
Posted 16 January 2014, 8:49 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
I heard a smart young man say today that we also need to drug-test every CEO and investor and shareholder who benefits from corporate welfare. While we're at it, let's drug-test all the politicians who get campaign contributions from corporate welfare kings.
Of course, they would all pass. Snort.
On Dems: Drug-Testing Bill 'Narrow-Minded'
Posted 16 January 2014, 7:19 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
Also worth considering:
[White people who kill black people in 'Stand Your Ground' states are 354% more likely to be cleared of murder][1]
It seems rather obvious that that's the point, no? It reminds me of my research on the Americans for the Preservation of the White Race in Mississippi--one of their main purposes was to raise money to pay for the defense of the Klansmen who did the dirty work for them and their fellow upstanding citizens of the Citizens Council. Now, we pass laws to make it easier for whites to kill blacks, even if they're just walking up on their porch because their car broke down. We're moving backward fast with this crap.
P.S. This piece was reposted proudly on the forums of a white-supremacist website. Great company to keep.
[1]: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article…
On Pulling the Trigger on a Gun Ordinance
Posted 16 January 2014, 5:46 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
I'm disappointed in Stamps on this one. He seems smart enough to do his homework instead of passing along false NRA memes. It's easy enough to debunk the myth and anyone who knows anything about where gun crimes actually tend to happen know that they are very likely to happen in places with the loosest gun laws: in general, the more guns, the more likely it is that people use them. That's rather common sense. Of course, some people only believe stuff they want to believe, but Stamps strikes me as smarter than those folks.
Here are several pieces about this myth that link out to other interesting stuff:
[NRA's gun-free zone myth][1]
[No Relationship between gun-free zones and mass shootings][2]
[List of related studies][3]
[National Criminal Justice Reference Service][4]
[Journal of American Medicine - Study: Firearm Legislation and Firearm-Related Fatalities in the United States ][5]
[Does strengthening self-defense law deter crime or escalate violence? Evidence from castle doctrine - See more at: http://journalistsresource.org/studies/…]
(Findings: Homicide increased in places with Castle Doctrine)
[Stand Your Ground Laws, Homicides, and Injuries][7]
(Stand Your Ground laws increase homicides among whites, but not blacks; they also increase emergency room visits for serious injuries)
[National Bureau of Economic Research][8]
(Making it easier to use guns for "self-defense" actually increased homicides 8 percent in those places, most classifieds as murders)
[Study: Guns contribute to escalation and lethality of violence][9]
That's just a start. I urge Councilman Stamps to get more educated about this issue.
[1]: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201…
[2]: http://www.armedwithreason.com/the-gun-…
[3]: http://www.armedwithreason.com/gun-stud…
[4]: https://www.ncjrs.gov/txtfiles/fireviol…
[5]: http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article…
[6]: http://journalistsresource.org/studies/…
[7]: http://www.nber.org/papers/w18187
[8]: http://www.nber.org/papers/w18134
[9]: http://hsx.sagepub.com/content/11/4/272…
On Pulling the Trigger on a Gun Ordinance
Posted 16 January 2014, 5:19 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
I agree with you. I can't believe the buildings don't have windows and the like. That is unconscionable to allow to happen, regardless of whose fault it is. Stop the dang fingerpointing and get down there and secure those historic buildings. It's tragic to watch them rot.
On The Battle for Downtown, Part 2: What Should Farish Become?
Posted 16 January 2014, 1:58 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
Agreed that Reeves is wrong. But he does represent a certain way of thinking that also infects some of our leaders in downtown Jackson who keep wanting to turn downtown into a tourist trap to draw the "white" dollars from outside the city--the type who thinks that an arena or a big lake development or other huge things are what will "save" us; meantime, we waste time and buildings sit empty waiting for the next huge thing. That thinking is what has downtown stalled in many ways. It's even more obvious to us since we moved downtown. We desperately need an updated, locals-first, respect-and-market-the-real-history, respectful, can-take-criticism approach to downtown leadership. We seriously need to stop wasting time and trusting in ideas the taxpayers can't afford. It's up to the people to demand better and do more ourselves.
Two-waying Capitol Street is all well and good -- but what about the businesses that already exist (many of which are in trouble as it takes so damn long). What are we doing to help them? How are we getting artists downtown? Are we convincing building owners to stop warehousing space waiting for the big paycheck? Where are the damn leaders? Frankly, I'm not seeing too many of them downtown these days. If the ones who claim to be would stop trying to play politics and kingmaker and start thinking local and creatively, maybe downtown would start popping.
Put it another way: If we want downtown to happen, we're clearly going to have to do it our own damn selves.
On The Battle for Downtown, Part 2: What Should Farish Become?
Posted 16 January 2014, 9:42 a.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
Turtleread, I know you're salivating to fight with me, but it's not going to happen. The story above is about Christianity and, thus, your posts here going forward need to be on topic. Others will be deleted without comment.
On Christianity Without Jesus
Posted 13 January 2014, 3:37 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
You might also re-read No. 6 while you're in there. You're clearly excited to be here, but you might try to refrain from posting over and over and over again -- especially if your posts say the same thing. That is bad netiquette.
On Christianity Without Jesus
Posted 13 January 2014, 1:22 p.m. Suggest removal