No doubt, they love to grandstand -- and aren't always right (see the story we're about to post about their continued efforts to push for a youth curfew).
My point is that I haven't seen you guys crowing when elected officials from Ward 1 (or those who tried to win office like Wilson Carroll) did the NIMBY dance in other neighborhoods. My suggestion is that you focus on whether or not they're right on this one, and not try to make it sound "unseemly" because black elected officials are saying they don't want a certain organization or business in their neighborhood. That's a common strategy among elected officials of all ethnicities and well within their rights.
In other words, try to talk substance instead of make everything personal. It'll make more sense and maybe even convince someone rather than offend them.
*We need to stop letting these elected persons continue to mouth off in any damned fool way they feel they can.*
Well, the First Amendment might have something to say about that. ;-)
As I said, I'm not against the animal shelter; don't know enough to think it's a bad thing. And I'm all for helping the animals. But it's a historic and current reality that poorer neighborhoods are typically dumped on. And well-to-do folks speak up all the time about keeping certain things out of their neighborhoods; there is nothing wrong with saying that. The smarter response would be a discussion of the actual business/organization rather than all the juvenile jokes about Ms. Stokes. It makes it hard to take your argument seriously. And it seems more appropriate for one of those trash sites that attract dudes afraid to ever say who they are in public.
Gentlemen, I'm not one to come to Councilwoman Stokes' defense very often, but I'm sure you know that poor, often majority non-white communities often either get disparately dumped on with services that white communities don't want or won't have; and they traditionally have gotten worse services than whiter communities. This is just fact, and there's really nothing wrong with her saying that (not that I'm taking a position on the shelter location here; I'm not; don't know enough to). Y'all better be careful: People are going to start thinking y'all are the ones obsessing about race and whining every time someone mentions it.
And the dalmations joke is just stupid. It's clear why you don't have the courage to use your own name on your posts, notmuch. I'd be embarrassed, too. Grow up.
statement of lt. gov. reeves on bp criminal settlement
“i hope this criminal settlement results in a swift agreement with the states on the environmental impact of the Deepwater Horizon disaster. Those funds are needed for the continued recovery of the Mississippi Gulf Coast.”
kdavis, I didn't say that Ole Miss officially segregates the dorms (which would be [de jure segregation, Jim Crow-typ-e][1]. The question is: Are they allocated in such a way that allows a [de facto segregation][2] (which was the kind of segregation most of the U.S. used to have as opposed to the Jim Crow South). Neither is good, and public universities should do everything possible to avoid a situation that allows a dorm to become majority African American. That kind of division is not going to educate these kids about "the other"--as we apparently saw this week.
Y'all might not have seen [the story R.L. did before the march.][1] A professor at Ole Miss sent us this student who actually saw much of what happened afterward; it was a follow-up story.
As for photos of the healing march, I've asked several folks in Oxford to send me something and haven't received any yet. We'll do a whole gallery if someone will get us photos. My address is: [email protected].
As for the dorms, it sounds like that choice policy (especially which floor) allows this kind of segregation to happen. That's unfortunate. When I was at State, we weren't able to make those choices. I don't know about now. It seems like a huge part of a university education (especially for kids who go to white academies or resegregated majority-black schools) would be to very mixed in dorms. It's not like you couldn't choose your roommate. Students need to learn to get along and continuing segregation into college doesn't do that.
donnaladd says...
Yes, The Clarion-Ledger lost a good one with Joe. We're thrilled to have him writing his column for us.
On All Labor Has Worth
Posted 20 November 2012, 3:32 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
No doubt, they love to grandstand -- and aren't always right (see the story we're about to post about their continued efforts to push for a youth curfew).
My point is that I haven't seen you guys crowing when elected officials from Ward 1 (or those who tried to win office like Wilson Carroll) did the NIMBY dance in other neighborhoods. My suggestion is that you focus on whether or not they're right on this one, and not try to make it sound "unseemly" because black elected officials are saying they don't want a certain organization or business in their neighborhood. That's a common strategy among elected officials of all ethnicities and well within their rights.
In other words, try to talk substance instead of make everything personal. It'll make more sense and maybe even convince someone rather than offend them.
On Protest at Site of New Jackson Animal Shelter
Posted 20 November 2012, 12:35 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
*We need to stop letting these elected persons continue to mouth off in any damned fool way they feel they can.*
Well, the First Amendment might have something to say about that. ;-)
As I said, I'm not against the animal shelter; don't know enough to think it's a bad thing. And I'm all for helping the animals. But it's a historic and current reality that poorer neighborhoods are typically dumped on. And well-to-do folks speak up all the time about keeping certain things out of their neighborhoods; there is nothing wrong with saying that. The smarter response would be a discussion of the actual business/organization rather than all the juvenile jokes about Ms. Stokes. It makes it hard to take your argument seriously. And it seems more appropriate for one of those trash sites that attract dudes afraid to ever say who they are in public.
On Protest at Site of New Jackson Animal Shelter
Posted 19 November 2012, 7:45 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
Gentlemen, I'm not one to come to Councilwoman Stokes' defense very often, but I'm sure you know that poor, often majority non-white communities often either get disparately dumped on with services that white communities don't want or won't have; and they traditionally have gotten worse services than whiter communities. This is just fact, and there's really nothing wrong with her saying that (not that I'm taking a position on the shelter location here; I'm not; don't know enough to). Y'all better be careful: People are going to start thinking y'all are the ones obsessing about race and whining every time someone mentions it.
And the dalmations joke is just stupid. It's clear why you don't have the courage to use your own name on your posts, notmuch. I'd be embarrassed, too. Grow up.
On Protest at Site of New Jackson Animal Shelter
Posted 19 November 2012, 6:42 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
statement of lt. gov. reeves on bp criminal settlement
“i hope this criminal settlement results in a swift agreement with the states on the environmental impact of the Deepwater Horizon disaster. Those funds are needed for the continued recovery of the Mississippi Gulf Coast.”
On 2 BP Workers Indicted on Manslaughter Counts
Posted 15 November 2012, 2:03 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
Yes, that was remarkable, golden. It proved he meant the bigotry against the 47 percent. At least now we know.
On The Southern Strategy's Last Stand?
Posted 15 November 2012, 11:48 a.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
kdavis, I didn't say that Ole Miss officially segregates the dorms (which would be [de jure segregation, Jim Crow-typ-e][1]. The question is: Are they allocated in such a way that allows a [de facto segregation][2] (which was the kind of segregation most of the U.S. used to have as opposed to the Jim Crow South). Neither is good, and public universities should do everything possible to avoid a situation that allows a dorm to become majority African American. That kind of division is not going to educate these kids about "the other"--as we apparently saw this week.
[1]: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/de+jur…
[2]: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/de+fac…
On Ole Miss Student Describes Campus Disturbance
Posted 9 November 2012, 6:19 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
Also, kdavis, we have several Ole Miss alums who work here who described the dorm situation to us as unfortunate.
On Ole Miss Student Describes Campus Disturbance
Posted 9 November 2012, 5:40 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
Y'all might not have seen [the story R.L. did before the march.][1] A professor at Ole Miss sent us this student who actually saw much of what happened afterward; it was a follow-up story.
As for photos of the healing march, I've asked several folks in Oxford to send me something and haven't received any yet. We'll do a whole gallery if someone will get us photos. My address is: [email protected].
As for the dorms, it sounds like that choice policy (especially which floor) allows this kind of segregation to happen. That's unfortunate. When I was at State, we weren't able to make those choices. I don't know about now. It seems like a huge part of a university education (especially for kids who go to white academies or resegregated majority-black schools) would be to very mixed in dorms. It's not like you couldn't choose your roommate. Students need to learn to get along and continuing segregation into college doesn't do that.
[1]: http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/news/20…
On Ole Miss Student Describes Campus Disturbance
Posted 9 November 2012, 5:37 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
That's just ignorant. Some people will believe and spread anything--without bothering to check it out. Sad.
On Abortion Foes Eye Jackson Clinic
Posted 9 November 2012, 5:26 p.m. Suggest removal