More Romney lies from yesterday, this time on abortion.
[He told the Des Moines Register editorial board:][1]
> There’s no legislation with regards to > abortion that I’m familiar with that > would become part of my agenda.
The same day, [his campaign assured the anti-abortion lobby][2] that he does, in fact, plan anti-abortion legislation:
> “No alarm bells here,” Tony Perkins, > president of the anti-abortion Family > Research Council, told TPM on > Wednesday. > > Perkins said the Romney campaign > called him soon after Romney’s remarks > were published by the Des Moines > Register and assured him it didn’t > represent a shift by Romney from his > support for pro-life issues.
This is absurd. You can't believe anything he says.
The difference is, Romney is coming across as a serial liar, same as Ryan was before they put a muzzle on him after the convention.
What's remarkable to me is that they must be planning the lies: The advisers tell the candidate: just go out there and lie about your promise to cut everyone's taxes 20 percent, Mr. Romney. Just tell the American public that you have a plan to cover pre-existing conditions; we can correct it with the media afterward. Just tell the cameras that the Medicare panel can tell people the treatments they can get (Palin's "death panels") even though federal law says they can't. Scare the dickens out of the public; then we can talk it back later. Any lie is OK in order to get elected even if it's to sick people about the treatment they can and cannot get.
And most of his foreign policy advisers are from the Bush administration and are "shock and awe" neocons. Look where that got us. No wonder all he talked about in his "foreign policy address" was getting tough on the MIddle East. Remember what Bush wanted and delivered?
THAT, along with the tax cuts for the wealthy, is the primary reason for our exploded debt. We can't afford the neoconservative approach to going after the Arab world by any means necessary. It costs too much money, and we lose family members -- and they're still pissed off at us.
Meantime, Romney wants to start another cold war with Russia. All this is great for defense contractors, maybe, but not the rest of us.
Romney is making Bush look better, and I didn't think anybody but Palin could do that.
It's also important to note that Mitt Romney's plan for abortion is to get Roe v. Wade appealed and send the abortion decision back to the states. That means that, even though he says he supports exceptions for rape, incest and to save the mother's life, it won't be up to him or the federal government. The states will decide. Here in Mississippi, where Gov. Phil Bryant was co-chair of the Personhood effort (supported by many men in the Legislature), that would probably mean that we get the Personhood treatment: no abortion in any case, or even birth control pills. And they refuse to pass meaningful sex education and are appalled at the idea of readily accessible birth control.
It doesn't take a genius to see how teen pregnancy creates cycles of poverty that, in turn, leads to crime -- which is spreading far beyond the "inner city." The key is to reduce unwanted pregnancy, of course, but these men don't seem to get that at all. Ryan will say there's a "crime problem" instead of a "gun problem"--but without providing any sense that he is willing to address the causes of crime.
Speaking of lies, did you see this humdinger in Romney's "foreign policy address" (sorry, I can't type that without snickering at him pissing off the British over the Olympics or Spain in the debate). [The New York Times editorialized][1] about lacking his address was, and included this morsel:
> Mr. Romney repeated an outright lie about Mr. Obama’s military spending policy to make himself appear to be more concerned about America’s defense than the president. He accused Mr. Obama of favoring “deep and arbitrary cuts” to the military when in fact those cuts, if they happen, **were mandated by a deal demanded by the Republicans** to end their trumped-up crisis over the debt ceiling.
Seriously, how do you lie about that? Either you're profoundly ignorant about what happens in your own party and Congress -- or you're willing to stand in front of the American people and lie through your teeth.
Right. It was absurd to yell out loud that all that matters is style over substance. And that blatant lies about life and death lies don't somehow get points taken away from the more belligerent debater (which has nothing to do with being a good president and, in fact, would make one horrible at diplomacy). Just weird, and it shows how low the national media are taking us, including on this one, MSNBC. Chris Matthews acted like a lunatic; of course, I've never liked him, so I'm biased.
I agree with you about the second debate. Obama would have to not show up or act very differently to "win" that one, probably. Because, by then, the narrative needs to shift.
Remember how the media turned on Rep. Ryan after his blatant lies in his convention speech? Romney told more than he told, but they weren't focused on that this time.
Obama: Jobs report shows economy is on right track ken thomas,Associated Press
fairfax, Va. (AP) — President Barack Obama says an encouraging jobs report shows that the country has made too much progress to turn back to the policies that he says led the nation into an economic crisis.
Obama got much-needed good news Friday following his disappointing debate performance as the unemployment rate dropped to 7.8 percent. That's the lowest it's been since he took office in 2009.
At a campaign event in suburban Washington, Obama said the report was "a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now."
Cheers erupted from the crowd at George Mason University in Fairfax, Va., when Obama noted that the jobless rate is now at its lowest level since he became president.
Republican rival Mitt Romney says Obama still hasn't done enough to create jobs.
Last night, Romney said he is not going to cut taxes on the wealthy. During his primary campaign he said he is going lower taxes on all Americans (including the wealthy) by 20 percent -- which raises the question of how his match adds up.
Oh, and Romney also repeated the lie about the deficit that the right wing likes to push: He said last night that Obama doubled it.
No, not even close. He inherited a $1.2 trillion deficit from Bush in January 2009, and it is now at about $1.3 trillion. It's hovered around the same level throughout his nearly four years.
Why tell such an easily verifiable lie? Sure, argue, twist, spin and try to convince on how you will lower it -- but what kind of person outright lies about a factual number like that? Or the debt?
I don't get this. It shows just remarkable contempt for the American public to lie in such an absurd way.
Then, there's the, uh, interpretive problem of his numbers not adding up at all and his refusal to give real details of his "plan." Romney said in no uncertain terms that he will not raise $1 in taxes on the wealthy in order to lower the debt. At the same time, he says the debt will be devastating if it doesn't stop rising (which everyone, including Obama, agrees is a bad thing). But he won't consider raising taxes (or restoring them to Clinton levels) to deal with it? (Right, Reagan promised that, too, because raising taxes repeatedly.) So that means he doesn't really care about lowering debt, no?
How smart of a businessman says we can grow our economy with revenue shortfalls and only by cutting? It doesn't add up, and it's not logical.
We're left with basic holes in his math that defy common sense (as the president said last night). His numbers don't add up, and he just denies it over and over again, and hopes enough people believe him so that he can get in there and dump medical needs, education and so much else on the states, who are already hurting. That's called abdicating responsibility, and that is not something that smart businesspeople do.
Rex! No one is saying not to question any candidate's background. What is crazy is making up wacked-out conspiracy theories about Obama trying to push his father's agenda or trying to turn Obama—the only mainline Protestant out of the top four candidates on both tickets--into a Muslim. (Not to mention, folks who use "Muslim" as a slur, but that's another whole topic).
As for Romney being a "smarter businessman," I don't think anybody questions that he has become very wealthy. But being a smart businessman ain't all that this is about -- especially if he is a conniving business man who buys companies, then lays off the workers, sells them and moves the companies overseas. (Not to mention hides his own money in offshore accounts.) There are many ways to define "smart," and they're not all impressive. People say Charles Manson was "smart."
Now, on the topic lying, you're the weakest when you say Romney "doesn't come across as a liar and a cheat." Rex, last night, Romney looked sick Americans in the face and lied when he said his play would cover pre-existing conditions. His adviser walked it back right after the debate.
He also lied when he said Obama is responsible for more debt than many presidents combined -- debt on Obama's watch, so far, is 60 percent of what occurred on Bush's. That's a lie, and Romney knows it.
He lied about the "death panels" (Palin's phrase); they aren't designed to do what he said, but he is trying to scare elderly people like Palin did.
He lied about Obama's Medicare "cut" of "$716 billion for current recipients of Medicare." (10 times if you search the transcript).
He lied about how the percentage of recent college graduates are out of work.
He lied about how many green energy companies have gone out of business. He said half while the vast majority are succeeding. (Bloomberg says about 3 percent are failing; a smart businessman would know that's a pretty good percentage.)
He said oil and gas drilling is all happening on private land: false. Actually, drilling on government land has risen under the Obama administration over Bush's.
He said he won't cut education, but weeks ago, he said he would. (maybe tht's just another flipflop, but it's dishonest)
I could go on, but suffice it to say that these aren't interpretive distortions; these are demonstrable, bald-faced lies.
donnaladd says...
More Romney lies from yesterday, this time on abortion.
[He told the Des Moines Register editorial board:][1]
> There’s no legislation with regards to
> abortion that I’m familiar with that
> would become part of my agenda.
The same day, [his campaign assured the anti-abortion lobby][2] that he does, in fact, plan anti-abortion legislation:
> “No alarm bells here,” Tony Perkins,
> president of the anti-abortion Family
> Research Council, told TPM on
> Wednesday.
>
> Perkins said the Romney campaign
> called him soon after Romney’s remarks
> were published by the Des Moines
> Register and assured him it didn’t
> represent a shift by Romney from his
> support for pro-life issues.
This is absurd. You can't believe anything he says.
[1]: http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/…
[2]: http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/…
On Romney: Not Presidential
Posted 10 October 2012, 2:11 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
The difference is, Romney is coming across as a serial liar, same as Ryan was before they put a muzzle on him after the convention.
What's remarkable to me is that they must be planning the lies: The advisers tell the candidate: just go out there and lie about your promise to cut everyone's taxes 20 percent, Mr. Romney. Just tell the American public that you have a plan to cover pre-existing conditions; we can correct it with the media afterward. Just tell the cameras that the Medicare panel can tell people the treatments they can get (Palin's "death panels") even though federal law says they can't. Scare the dickens out of the public; then we can talk it back later. Any lie is OK in order to get elected even if it's to sick people about the treatment they can and cannot get.
And most of his foreign policy advisers are from the Bush administration and are "shock and awe" neocons. Look where that got us. No wonder all he talked about in his "foreign policy address" was getting tough on the MIddle East. Remember what Bush wanted and delivered?
THAT, along with the tax cuts for the wealthy, is the primary reason for our exploded debt. We can't afford the neoconservative approach to going after the Arab world by any means necessary. It costs too much money, and we lose family members -- and they're still pissed off at us.
Meantime, Romney wants to start another cold war with Russia. All this is great for defense contractors, maybe, but not the rest of us.
Romney is making Bush look better, and I didn't think anybody but Palin could do that.
On Romney: Not Presidential
Posted 10 October 2012, 11:14 a.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
It's also important to note that Mitt Romney's plan for abortion is to get Roe v. Wade appealed and send the abortion decision back to the states. That means that, even though he says he supports exceptions for rape, incest and to save the mother's life, it won't be up to him or the federal government. The states will decide. Here in Mississippi, where Gov. Phil Bryant was co-chair of the Personhood effort (supported by many men in the Legislature), that would probably mean that we get the Personhood treatment: no abortion in any case, or even birth control pills. And they refuse to pass meaningful sex education and are appalled at the idea of readily accessible birth control.
It doesn't take a genius to see how teen pregnancy creates cycles of poverty that, in turn, leads to crime -- which is spreading far beyond the "inner city." The key is to reduce unwanted pregnancy, of course, but these men don't seem to get that at all. Ryan will say there's a "crime problem" instead of a "gun problem"--but without providing any sense that he is willing to address the causes of crime.
We have to be smarter, America.
On Surprising, and Testy, Comments by Rep. Ryan on Crime, Guns
Posted 8 October 2012, 7:31 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
Speaking of lies, did you see this humdinger in Romney's "foreign policy address" (sorry, I can't type that without snickering at him pissing off the British over the Olympics or Spain in the debate). [The New York Times editorialized][1] about lacking his address was, and included this morsel:
> Mr. Romney repeated an outright lie about Mr. Obama’s military spending policy to make himself appear to be more concerned about America’s defense than the president. He accused Mr. Obama of favoring “deep and arbitrary cuts” to the military when in fact those cuts, if they happen, **were mandated by a deal demanded by the Republicans** to end their trumped-up crisis over the debt ceiling.
Seriously, how do you lie about that? Either you're profoundly ignorant about what happens in your own party and Congress -- or you're willing to stand in front of the American people and lie through your teeth.
Romney thinks we're all stupid.
[1]: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/09/opini…
On YOUR TURN: Obama's Rope-A-Dope Revisited
Posted 8 October 2012, 5:01 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
Right. It was absurd to yell out loud that all that matters is style over substance. And that blatant lies about life and death lies don't somehow get points taken away from the more belligerent debater (which has nothing to do with being a good president and, in fact, would make one horrible at diplomacy). Just weird, and it shows how low the national media are taking us, including on this one, MSNBC. Chris Matthews acted like a lunatic; of course, I've never liked him, so I'm biased.
I agree with you about the second debate. Obama would have to not show up or act very differently to "win" that one, probably. Because, by then, the narrative needs to shift.
Remember how the media turned on Rep. Ryan after his blatant lies in his convention speech? Romney told more than he told, but they weren't focused on that this time.
On YOUR TURN: Obama's Rope-A-Dope Revisited
Posted 8 October 2012, 4:55 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
More from the Associated Press:
Obama: Jobs report shows economy is on right track
ken thomas,Associated Press
fairfax, Va. (AP) — President Barack Obama says an encouraging jobs report shows that the country has made too much progress to turn back to the policies that he says led the nation into an economic crisis.
Obama got much-needed good news Friday following his disappointing debate performance as the unemployment rate dropped to 7.8 percent. That's the lowest it's been since he took office in 2009.
At a campaign event in suburban Washington, Obama said the report was "a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now."
Cheers erupted from the crowd at George Mason University in Fairfax, Va., when Obama noted that the jobless rate is now at its lowest level since he became president.
Republican rival Mitt Romney says Obama still hasn't done enough to create jobs.
On US Unemployment Falls to 7.8 pct., a 44-month Low
Posted 5 October 2012, 11:18 a.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
Last night, Romney said he is not going to cut taxes on the wealthy. During his primary campaign he said he is going lower taxes on all Americans (including the wealthy) by 20 percent -- which raises the question of how his match adds up.
Here is a video with both clips:
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On The Delusion and Paranoia of 'Obama's America 2016'
Posted 4 October 2012, 5:36 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
Oh, and Romney also repeated the lie about the deficit that the right wing likes to push: He said last night that Obama doubled it.
No, not even close. He inherited a $1.2 trillion deficit from Bush in January 2009, and it is now at about $1.3 trillion. It's hovered around the same level throughout his nearly four years.
Why tell such an easily verifiable lie? Sure, argue, twist, spin and try to convince on how you will lower it -- but what kind of person outright lies about a factual number like that? Or the debt?
I don't get this. It shows just remarkable contempt for the American public to lie in such an absurd way.
On The Delusion and Paranoia of 'Obama's America 2016'
Posted 4 October 2012, 5:03 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
Then, there's the, uh, interpretive problem of his numbers not adding up at all and his refusal to give real details of his "plan." Romney said in no uncertain terms that he will not raise $1 in taxes on the wealthy in order to lower the debt. At the same time, he says the debt will be devastating if it doesn't stop rising (which everyone, including Obama, agrees is a bad thing). But he won't consider raising taxes (or restoring them to Clinton levels) to deal with it? (Right, Reagan promised that, too, because raising taxes repeatedly.) So that means he doesn't really care about lowering debt, no?
How smart of a businessman says we can grow our economy with revenue shortfalls and only by cutting? It doesn't add up, and it's not logical.
We're left with basic holes in his math that defy common sense (as the president said last night). His numbers don't add up, and he just denies it over and over again, and hopes enough people believe him so that he can get in there and dump medical needs, education and so much else on the states, who are already hurting. That's called abdicating responsibility, and that is not something that smart businesspeople do.
On The Delusion and Paranoia of 'Obama's America 2016'
Posted 4 October 2012, 4:24 p.m. Suggest removal
donnaladd says...
Rex! No one is saying not to question any candidate's background. What is crazy is making up wacked-out conspiracy theories about Obama trying to push his father's agenda or trying to turn Obama—the only mainline Protestant out of the top four candidates on both tickets--into a Muslim. (Not to mention, folks who use "Muslim" as a slur, but that's another whole topic).
As for Romney being a "smarter businessman," I don't think anybody questions that he has become very wealthy. But being a smart businessman ain't all that this is about -- especially if he is a conniving business man who buys companies, then lays off the workers, sells them and moves the companies overseas. (Not to mention hides his own money in offshore accounts.) There are many ways to define "smart," and they're not all impressive. People say Charles Manson was "smart."
Now, on the topic lying, you're the weakest when you say Romney "doesn't come across as a liar and a cheat." Rex, last night, Romney looked sick Americans in the face and lied when he said his play would cover pre-existing conditions. His adviser walked it back right after the debate.
He also lied when he said Obama is responsible for more debt than many presidents combined -- debt on Obama's watch, so far, is 60 percent of what occurred on Bush's. That's a lie, and Romney knows it.
He lied about the "death panels" (Palin's phrase); they aren't designed to do what he said, but he is trying to scare elderly people like Palin did.
He lied about Obama's Medicare "cut" of "$716 billion for current recipients of Medicare." (10 times if you search the transcript).
He lied about how the percentage of recent college graduates are out of work.
He lied about how many green energy companies have gone out of business. He said half while the vast majority are succeeding. (Bloomberg says about 3 percent are failing; a smart businessman would know that's a pretty good percentage.)
He said oil and gas drilling is all happening on private land: false. Actually, drilling on government land has risen under the Obama administration over Bush's.
He said he won't cut education, but weeks ago, he said he would. (maybe tht's just another flipflop, but it's dishonest)
I could go on, but suffice it to say that these aren't interpretive distortions; these are demonstrable, bald-faced lies.
On The Delusion and Paranoia of 'Obama's America 2016'
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