And the problem here is that Aurora doesn't fit your narrative. In an extremely gun-friendly and conceal-carry state, none of the "citizen hero" scenarios played out. Short of *requiring* citizens to carry guns on them at all time, I don't understand what the logical next step is for the gun lobby on this one.
It gets back to the same question I've asked repeatedly about these conservatives who are suddenly "all-in" on the idea that people need to obtain and display ID before they can do what I'll call "commit constitutional acts."
Why is it consistent to be for voter ID, but against a government ID for gun owners?
If ID'ing all law-abiding citizens before a crime is committed is so important to you, then you should also be for requiring every gun owner to have a gun-owner's ID.
Here's my [Modest Proposal][1]: I call it the 2A-ID, or the 2nd Amendment ID.
After all, more and deadlier crimes are committed with guns than with votes. Shouldn't you be for preventative ID in those situations, too?
Your 2A-ID should be required before a gun purchase can be made and presented at the time of purchase. (To avoid additional cost, you can get your gun owner's rating when you're registering for your voter ID or driver's license. I don't want this to be onerous for the gun owner.)
Then, to deter any potential "future crime," that specific gun can be registered directly to that licensed owner in the shop, so that it can be tracked in case it's resold and used in the commission of any sort of crime... like happened with Fast and Furious.
Indeed, Fast and Furious wouldn't even have been an issue if 2A-ID was in force at the time. Since conservatives are really upset about Fast and Furious, I think they'd be all for 2A-ID.
Gun shows can have onsite scanners for registrations; eBay, Craigslist, etc., will need to build in some third-party database connectors. These "absentee purchases" will be tougher to trace, but they're were the real fraud could happen.
Bonus... the license can be easily be revoked if you commit a felony. And, no more background checks at the store; they can just scan your valid license to make the purchase and tie the gun to the purchaser.
Might as well use the ID for ammo purchases, as well, right? That way crazy-ass stockpilers could be tracked before they commit crimes, too.
Good idea, right? And fully in step with conservative values in terms of Voter ID, right?
Just did a terse survey of the right-wing blogosphere that continues to push that story (and the scare-tactics meme that the mainstream press is "ignoring" it), and here's what's remarkable --try as they might to write around it, even some of them can't get away from the fact that Sowers crime was on fake *absentee* ballots. Something that voter ID does nothing to address.
Are you asking for our Editorial position on non-sequiturs? We're against 'em! :)
This editorial is about one governor telling another governor to release his tax returns during a campaign, even thought that first governor was unwilling to do the same thing when he was running.
That really has nothing to do with a GOP-led House telling the Democratic administration that it's in contempt of that House for not revealing every last document the GOP House wants revealed. Particularly when the story itself seems likely to be [a tempest in a teapot][1].
<i>Indeed, a six-month Fortune investigation reveals that the public case alleging that Voth and his colleagues walked guns is replete with distortions, errors, partial truths, and even some outright lies. Fortune reviewed more than 2,000 pages of confidential ATF documents and interviewed 39 people, including seven law-enforcement agents with direct knowledge of the case. Several, including Voth, are speaking out for the first time.</i>
<i>How Fast and Furious reached the headlines is a strange and unsettling saga, one that reveals a lot about politics and media today. It's a story that starts with a grudge, specifically Dodson's anger at Voth. After the terrible murder of agent Terry, Dodson made complaints that were then amplified, first by right-wing bloggers, then by CBS. Rep. Issa and other politicians then seized those elements to score points against the Obama administration, which, for its part, has capitulated in an apparent effort to avoid a rhetorical battle over gun control in the run-up to the presidential election. (A Justice Department spokesperson denies this and asserts that the department is not drawing conclusions until the inspector general's report is submitted.)</i>
I think they may be in the SEC because LSU and Alabama wanted some bigger schools to beat up on. Getting sick of pounding on poor little Mississippi schools. :)
Apple "missed" street expectations, but it's worth nothing this is significant year-over-year growth for their Q3. Revenues were still up 32 percent. Still, given the strong iPad and even iPod sales, some analysis suggests that people are still waiting for the iPhone 5.
Nice post, Eddie. Two other thoughts: (1.) As far as I can tell, Colorado's gun laws are as friendly to the "armed public" theorists as they can be, and they still didn't serve in Aurora. It's just possible that not everyone *wants* to walk around armed all the time. (2.) I find it more than a little ironic that a guy who is supposed to be part of an "American Family Association" wants yet another gunman to open fire in a crowded theater full of kids. Despicable.
Bubba, the media didn't sensationalize this event.
The killer did.
He used (reportedly) an AR-15 assault rifle with a high-capacity clip, two .40 caliber glocks, tear gas and who knows what else, and he wasn't defending his house or his castle or his goddam rights.
He was killing kids, and vets, and innocents, and wounding a ton of others.
And you know what's funny about your comments?
You haven't mentioned the killer. Or the victims. Just word choice.
So maybe you should STFU until you've got something more interesting to complain about than the world "arsenal" as it relates to a shit-ton of firepower used for pure evil.
(2.) Seriously? You typed that? Today? There's a time and a season to demand your version of "political correctness" on gun terminology. This is not that time; not that season.
tstauffer says...
And the problem here is that Aurora doesn't fit your narrative. In an extremely gun-friendly and conceal-carry state, none of the "citizen hero" scenarios played out. Short of *requiring* citizens to carry guns on them at all time, I don't understand what the logical next step is for the gun lobby on this one.
On Guns Kill Families
Posted 1 August 2012, 10:03 a.m. Suggest removal
tstauffer says...
It gets back to the same question I've asked repeatedly about these conservatives who are suddenly "all-in" on the idea that people need to obtain and display ID before they can do what I'll call "commit constitutional acts."
Why is it consistent to be for voter ID, but against a government ID for gun owners?
If ID'ing all law-abiding citizens before a crime is committed is so important to you, then you should also be for requiring every gun owner to have a gun-owner's ID.
Here's my [Modest Proposal][1]: I call it the 2A-ID, or the 2nd Amendment ID.
After all, more and deadlier crimes are committed with guns than with votes. Shouldn't you be for preventative ID in those situations, too?
Your 2A-ID should be required before a gun purchase can be made and presented at the time of purchase. (To avoid additional cost, you can get your gun owner's rating when you're registering for your voter ID or driver's license. I don't want this to be onerous for the gun owner.)
Then, to deter any potential "future crime," that specific gun can be registered directly to that licensed owner in the shop, so that it can be tracked in case it's resold and used in the commission of any sort of crime... like happened with Fast and Furious.
Indeed, Fast and Furious wouldn't even have been an issue if 2A-ID was in force at the time. Since conservatives are really upset about Fast and Furious, I think they'd be all for 2A-ID.
Gun shows can have onsite scanners for registrations; eBay, Craigslist, etc., will need to build in some third-party database connectors. These "absentee purchases" will be tougher to trace, but they're were the real fraud could happen.
Bonus... the license can be easily be revoked if you commit a felony. And, no more background checks at the store; they can just scan your valid license to make the purchase and tie the gun to the purchaser.
Might as well use the ID for ammo purchases, as well, right? That way crazy-ass stockpilers could be tracked before they commit crimes, too.
Good idea, right? And fully in step with conservative values in terms of Voter ID, right?
What am I missing?
[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_P…
On 'Quagmire' of Voter ID
Posted 31 July 2012, 12:43 p.m. Suggest removal
tstauffer says...
Just did a terse survey of the right-wing blogosphere that continues to push that story (and the scare-tactics meme that the mainstream press is "ignoring" it), and here's what's remarkable --try as they might to write around it, even some of them can't get away from the fact that Sowers crime was on fake *absentee* ballots. Something that voter ID does nothing to address.
Try again, Scrap?
On 'Quagmire' of Voter ID
Posted 31 July 2012, 10:07 a.m. Suggest removal
tstauffer says...
Are you asking for our Editorial position on non-sequiturs? We're against 'em! :)
This editorial is about one governor telling another governor to release his tax returns during a campaign, even thought that first governor was unwilling to do the same thing when he was running.
That really has nothing to do with a GOP-led House telling the Democratic administration that it's in contempt of that House for not revealing every last document the GOP House wants revealed. Particularly when the story itself seems likely to be [a tempest in a teapot][1].
<i>Indeed, a six-month Fortune investigation reveals that the public case alleging that Voth and his colleagues walked guns is replete with distortions, errors, partial truths, and even some outright lies. Fortune reviewed more than 2,000 pages of confidential ATF documents and interviewed 39 people, including seven law-enforcement agents with direct knowledge of the case. Several, including Voth, are speaking out for the first time.</i>
<i>How Fast and Furious reached the headlines is a strange and unsettling saga, one that reveals a lot about politics and media today. It's a story that starts with a grudge, specifically Dodson's anger at Voth. After the terrible murder of agent Terry, Dodson made complaints that were then amplified, first by right-wing bloggers, then by CBS. Rep. Issa and other politicians then seized those elements to score points against the Obama administration, which, for its part, has capitulated in an apparent effort to avoid a rhetorical battle over gun control in the run-up to the presidential election. (A Justice Department spokesperson denies this and asserts that the department is not drawing conclusions until the inspector general's report is submitted.)</i>
[1]: http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2…
On Be Transparent, Mitt (and Haley)
Posted 25 July 2012, 10:14 p.m. Suggest removal
tstauffer says...
I think they may be in the SEC because LSU and Alabama wanted some bigger schools to beat up on. Getting sick of pounding on poor little Mississippi schools. :)
On Which Teams do You Think Should be Included in the JFP College Football Top 25?
Posted 25 July 2012, 6:55 p.m. Suggest removal
tstauffer says...
Apple "missed" street expectations, but it's worth nothing this is significant year-over-year growth for their Q3. Revenues were still up 32 percent. Still, given the strong iPad and even iPod sales, some analysis suggests that people are still waiting for the iPhone 5.
On Apple Earnings Miss Expectations in 3Q as iPhone Gets Cheaper
Posted 24 July 2012, 4:54 p.m. Suggest removal
tstauffer says...
Wouldn't "reverse prejudice" be open-mindedness? :)
On GOP May Sue Over Hinds Maps
Posted 24 July 2012, 12:29 p.m. Suggest removal
tstauffer says...
Nice post, Eddie. Two other thoughts: (1.) As far as I can tell, Colorado's gun laws are as friendly to the "armed public" theorists as they can be, and they still didn't serve in Aurora. It's just possible that not everyone *wants* to walk around armed all the time. (2.) I find it more than a little ironic that a guy who is supposed to be part of an "American Family Association" wants yet another gunman to open fire in a crowded theater full of kids. Despicable.
On None
Posted 21 July 2012, 7:44 p.m. Suggest removal
tstauffer says...
Bubba, the media didn't sensationalize this event.
The killer did.
He used (reportedly) an AR-15 assault rifle with a high-capacity clip, two .40 caliber glocks, tear gas and who knows what else, and he wasn't defending his house or his castle or his goddam rights.
He was killing kids, and vets, and innocents, and wounding a ton of others.
And you know what's funny about your comments?
You haven't mentioned the killer. Or the victims. Just word choice.
So maybe you should STFU until you've got something more interesting to complain about than the world "arsenal" as it relates to a shit-ton of firepower used for pure evil.
On 12 Dead in Colo. Shooting
Posted 20 July 2012, 9:58 p.m. Suggest removal
tstauffer says...
Two things.
(1.) http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictiona…
b : a collection of weapons
(2.) Seriously? You typed that? Today? There's a time and a season to demand your version of "political correctness" on gun terminology. This is not that time; not that season.
On 12 Dead in Colo. Shooting
Posted 20 July 2012, 7:09 p.m. Suggest removal